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It’s Time To Repeal The 2nd Amendment

It’s time to face the facts.  The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution has both outlived it’s usefulness and been perverted far beyond its original intent.

Based on the English Bill of Rights (1869), as the US Supreme Court has said, the English law was to reinstate Protestant‘s rights to have arms after being disarmed by James II.  The American cousin was no doubt influenced by both the English law and the conditions of occupation by the British military leading up to the American Revolution.

The intent of the law was to prevent the government from militarily taking over the nation.  This was back in the days where the citizenry and the government had access to pretty much the same weaponry.

In 2012, well, let’s just say that your personal arsenal wouldn’t be much of a match for Marines with BDMs or a Naval Carrier Group with fully loaded warplanes.

Additionally, since the Civil War, there really hasn’t been much in the way of a tyrannical government to fear.  Sure RWNJs and Tea Partiers like to claim that this (or really any Democratic administration in the last 50 years) are putting the US on the road to tyranny, you and I both know they’re full of s**t.

Today, in Newtown, Connecticut, was the 36th mass school shooting since Columbine in 1996.  That’s 2.5x the number of school shootings during the same period in the rest of the world combined.  The dots on the map at the top of the page represent every mass shooting incident in the US since 2005.

After every single one, the cycle goes:

1. Shock.
2. Now is not the time
3. Police investigations.
4. Questions about “is now the time?” shouted down
5. Half hearted follow up stories
6. Distraction and everyone forgets.

Lather.

Rinse.

Repeat.

It was said after Columbine.

It was said after Virginia Tech.

It was said after Gabby Giffords, a sitting member of Congress, was shot in the head.

It was said after Aurora.

It’s being said now.

Bob Costas was pilloried by RWNJs for daring to bring up America’s obsessive gun culture during halftime of a Monday Night Football game.  They weren’t upset because he was right that Jovan Belcher and Kassandra Perkins would probably still be alive if there weren’t firearms in the house.

No.  They were upset that he dared say anything at all.

To some people, it’s never the time to talk about gun violence.

The very first mass shooting incident I can remember was the McDonald’s massacre in San Ysidro, California back in 1984.

A man named James Huberty walked into a McDonald’s and opened fire, killing 21 people (including 5 children) and wounding 19 others.  It would become a scene, and a story, repeated far too often over the next 28 years.

You see, Huberty was a survivalist who:

“…saw signs of what he thought was growing trouble in America, and believed that government regulations were the cause of business failures, including his own. He believed that international bankers were purposefully manipulating the Federal Reserve System and bankrupting the nation. Convinced that Soviet aggression was everywhere, he believed that the breakdown of society was near, perhaps through economic collapse or nuclear war. He committed himself to prepare to survive this coming collapse and, while in Canton, provisioned his house with thousands of dollars of non-perishable food and six guns that he intended to use to defend his home during what he believed was the coming chaos.”

Sound familiar?

That’s common talk nowadays on Right Wing Nut Job radio and the underlying theme of just about every NRA political flyer.

The power and money of the National Rifle Association have managed to pervert the 2nd Amendment into essentially a firearms free-for-all, where any regulation is vigorously opposed.  They whip up their lemmings into a frenzy of fear that some all powerful government entity, national or international, is going to go door to door confiscating all their firearms.

This has led to toothless gun laws with meaningless penalties and a firearm homicide rate per 100,000 people that is higher than the West Bank and Gaza and nearly 4 times higher than the next industrialized nation.

Therefore it is time.

It is time to repeal the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and start over.

It is time for strict licensing with mandatory training classes, liability insurance and licenses that must be renewed on regular basis.

It is time for firearm registration with 14 day waiting periods and thorough background checks.

It is time to limit, as the UK does, the maximum caliber of weapons the public can own along with the firearm’s capacity.

It is time, as Norway does, to require the purchaser to have a valid reason to own a gun.

To own a gun in Norway, one must document a use for the gun. By far the most common grounds for civilian ownership are hunting and sports shooting, in that order. Other needs can include special guard duties or self defence, but the first is rare unless the person shows identification confirming that he or she is a trained guard or member of a law-enforcement agency and the second is practically never accepted as a reason for gun ownership.

It is time, as in Norway, for mandatory gun safes and to allow law enforcement to inspect homes for compliance.

The proper response to a tragedy, like the one today, is not to do nothing, but to work and put laws in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

I will be perfectly honest… I’m done hearing the pro-gun arguments.

I’m done hearing the “responsible gun owner” argument.  The weapons used in Columbine, Aurora, Kansas City, Clackamas, and Newtown were all legally purchased.

I’m done hearing the ridiculous comparisons to swimming pools and car accident fatalities.

I’m done hearing the “if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns” mindless pablum.

20 children, all between the ages of 5 and 10, were killed today in one school, in one city, with legally purchased firearms in the United States.

The time to talk about gun violence was yesterday, is today, and will be tomorrow.

Saying it isn’t time and doing nothing means those 20 children will have died in vain.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/azlederman Jeremie Lederman

    feel better now?

  • http://www.facebook.com/azlederman Jeremie Lederman

    “I’m done hearing the “if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns” mindless pablum.”

    Well, for a break from hearing that, listen to Chicago, they are not saying this as much as they are screaming and weeping at the 600+homicides this year…

    • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

      And that is sad. This sort of thing in suburban (read: mostly white) is always treated with much more coverage than in urban (read: mostly minority) areas. That speaks volumes about us as a society. There is, and I’ve seen it, an unsavory element in society that point to Chicago to make the point that “those people” are less civilized than others.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=657838517 Bob Honiker

      Chicago is up to the armpits in barbarians and does not represent the nation as a whole.

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  • Greg DiMiceli

    “[We] are putting the US on the road to tyranny, you and I both know they’re full of s**t. ” Who is “they”? And why do we “know” this is untrue? Because it is YOUR opinion? Is that your basis for making this specious statement?

    You crazy Lefties are the ones shooting others and then you scream to take away the rights of law-abiding citizens. No. We will not change the 2nd amendment.

    Liberal stronghold Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world, and yet it is one of the most violent cities in the nation, as is Washington DC. And those who commit these heinous crimes do not care about whatever additional stinkin’ law you lay down. You want more laws to restrict the activity of the law abiding.

    How about Obama running guns down to Mexico? How about all the Hollywood movies glorifying killing, you know, movies like “Kill Bill” and a plethora of others. How about violent video games that teach children to kill as many as possible? Any connection whatsoever? Advertising agencies seem to think there are connections. Therefore, how about we eliminate the 1st Amendment?

    Your determined hatred and desire to see punished those who you personally cannot identify with philosophically is apparent — as it is with most Lefties, and you scare me. You remind me of Pol Pot, or Lenin, or Mao. That you Lefties eagerly pursue a powerful government is truely frightening.

    • csalafia

      Oooh… a Lenin/Mao reference!

      How incredibly brainless.

  • squalus

    It’s worked so well in the UK with a 35% increase in gun related crimes. Jeez, what a maroon! A great effort for making a valid argument yet you fail to learn from history the lessons such thinking. Human nature does not change.

    • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

      Couple of things that might educate you.

      1) Gun crime reports in the UK include those with BB guns and Airsoft guns.
      2) After mass shootings, the UK actually did something instead of nothing.
      3) England and Wales had a total of 49 gun related homicides in 2010. In the same year, the US had 14,748, or 295 times more. This means the rate of homicide deaths for the UK is 0.1 / 100,000 people, while in the US it is 3.2 / 100,000 people. If you’re going to use statistics, it’s a good idea to have an understanding of statistical analysis and how normalization makes valid comparisons while yours is BS.

      Statistics don’t lie.

  • A Woman

    Do you honestly believe that we need no longer fear a tyrannical government? As long as our government is composed of and run by human beings, there is reason to fear tyranny. Have you any knowledge of the things went on in the 20th century? You believe that because it hasn’t happened to you, it will never happen? If you trust the government then by all means turn your guns over to them, but don’t ask me to leave myself and my family defenseless.

  • Dantes

    Great idea. Doesn’t work. Never has. Read some books.

    • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

      Considering the homicide by firearm rate, and the raw numbers killed, are exponentially lower in every other OCED country on the planet, those silly liberal things called facts and statistics prove you wrong.

  • cheshire_cat28

    Take a hike, gun grabber — Obama isn’t going to get his Richtstag moment over this. More people have been killed by their governments than any category of criminals.

    • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

      Thanks Freeper.

      Oh, and it’s “Reichstag”. If you’re going to invoke Godwin’s Law, the least you could do is spell it right.

  • squalus

    Christian,

    Either your terribly naive or ignorant or both, Even though the Department of Justice determined that the average
    police response time to a 911 call is 4 minutes, the average interaction
    time between a criminal and his victim is 90 seconds. If your counting on the police to save your a$$ if a criminal breaks into your home while you’re there, good luck, you’ll need it. Maybe whining and whimpering will save you.

    • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

      Squalus,

      Nice shift in topic.
      Is it because you can’t defend your BS statistics or does defending the 14,000+ more killed in the US than in the UK leave you feeling a little ill?

      PS. You might want to learn the difference between “you’re” and “your” while you’re at it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michel-Ouellette/1602360386 Michel Ouellette

    After this diatribe, maybe we should abolish the first Amendment. The founders never envisioned bullshit and nonsense like this could possiblly be spread far and wide by something called the internet….. Idiot.

    • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

      Thanks for the comment devoid of any rationality.

      You win the internets!

    • http://twitter.com/mickystu101 Micky

      The first amendment does not have NRA, GOA, etc funded by the gun industry, to fight it’s battles. There have been many limits to the 1st amendment. why not to guns? NRA support lethal action against police, moved to protect gun manufacturers from being sue when they are negligent. we cannot take anymore.

  • Some Guy

    I agree. Since we are at it, can we get rid of that dumb first amendment also? We all know it’s only purpose was to defend those pesky newspaper writers, and since the newspaper has all but been killed by radio, TV, and the internet, the first is no longer needed. I mean seriously, do you honestly believe the founders intended it to cover the internet? The whole bill if rights is an archaic throwback to a time when people thought they had rights and needed to ensure that those rights were always respected. Since we are on the subject, the constitution is in serious need of a rewrite also. According to that document we are a republic, not a democracy. We have moved beyond such simple ideas as personal freedom, It is time that our country reflect the new reality, that the Government is all important and will protect us, feed us, and kiss our boo-boos at every turn. I can’t wait to stop working and live off of the public dole like millions of my fellow countrymen already do. We just need to figure out how to pay for it all once everyone stops working. Oh well, who cares as long as the Government has our best interests at heart.

    • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

      Here’s a hint. When you tell a story, have a point. It makes things so much more interesting for the reader.

      Society changes, it’s time for the Constitution to change with it. In England, where the inspiration for that Amendment was born, they no longer recognize an inherent right to keep and bear arms.

      It’s time for the US to join the rest of the civilized world….unless you like being #1 in school shootings.

  • csalafia

    14,000+ people were killed in the US in 2009.

    20+ kids were killed in the US yesterday.

    Yours is the same argument I hear all the time “Well, if we outlaw guns, only outlaws have guns” and nothing ever changes. The US is #1 in mass shootings…not something to be very proud of.

    I do agree with you about access to mental health care. However, until national health care is not viewed as “tyrannical”, not a whole lot is ever going to change.

    In every other OCED country, the gun homicide rate, and the raw numbers, are exponentially lower than they are in the US.

    Not just a little, but by orders of magnitude.

    If nearly two dozen dead kids no older than 10 doesn’t cause people to rethink our permissive gun culture, then nothing will….and God help us then.

    • squalus

      Yup, it’s the guns fault. That why spoons cause people to be fat and pencils cause spelling mistakes.

      • csalafia

        This ranks as one of the dumbest, least intelligent responses I’ve ever seen.

        Congrats.

  • csalafia

    Mikey,

    Normally I ignore insipid, brainless, ad hominem comments like yours, but in your case, I feel compelled to respond.

    In your comment, like most typical RWNJs, you managed to call me a fascist, twit, feeble, and a dumbass.

    You’re also suggesting, as is typical everytime this happens, that we do nothing and just keep repeating the cycle.

    As a father, I find that not only indefensible, but totally ignorant.

    The “no law would have done anything” is just the coward’s way out of having to answer the hard questions that events like this demand.

    Having a permissive gun culture, as we do, is a perversion of the 2nd Amendment. Tell me, since the big argument is to fight “tyranny”, how many tyrants have been overthrown or repelled since 1791?

    Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

    I’ll give you a hint… it’s 0.

    Those guns were legally purchased by a ‘responsible gun owner’. That fact is undeniable.

    Things need to change…and in a major way.

    Your way just ensures that more innocent blood will be spilled on the altar of gun worship.

    • squalus

      After reading your 3 replies to the various comments posted about this subject your responses prove you really are a brainless utopian twit.

      • csalafia

        Forgive me if I don’t take comments full of ad hom attacks like: feeble, twit, gun grabber, liberal fascist, etc., seriously. Those are the signs of a mind that cannot deal with complex subjects and tough questions.

        So, until you’re ready to discuss this issue like an adult and answer hard questions, please feel free to go back to Freeperville and it’s circle of self-gratification.

        Thanks and have a wonderful day.

        • squalus

          You really are a dope that like to hear himself talk. Lucky for you the internet exists so you can publish your drivel. I notice you get so much traffic on your posts, that should be a clue for you about the relevance of your opinions on subjects requiring a little intelligence which you obvious lack. You have a wonderful day to.

          • http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

            …and still you keep coming back. So, really, who is the dope?

            The one who thinks this sort of violence is unacceptable and must stop?

            Or you, who believes that the blood of 20 innocent 6 and 7 year old kids is just the price we pay for ‘freedom’?

  • csalafia

    Blaming “culture” is the cowards way out.

    Do we have a culture that glorifies violence and even presents it as erotica?

    Yes, there’s no doubt. That needs to change as well.

    But to simply blame “Hollywood” is, and I’ll say it again, the coward’s way out.

    Events like Newtown and the escalating violence in Chicago demand we answer hard questions about our permissive gun culture.

    • DeeWW

      Chicago has had some of the most stringent gun control laws on the books. Now that they are being struck down as unconstitutional, perhaps that trend will reverse.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=657838517 Bob Honiker

    The right of effective self defense is one of the inalienable rights, an article of natural law.

    • http://twitter.com/mickystu101 Micky

      Do you think we should teach children 6-10 to use guns with lethal force?

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  • http://profiles.google.com/wkennethleonard Ken Leonard

    Well, you drew out the nut jobs, didn’t you?

    I agree completely. I’m so tired of seeing us bury kids because some jackass had the “right” to have hundreds of rounds of high-powered ammunition and a weapon designed to kill people in large numbers.

    Thus far, in 200+ years, the Second Amendment has not prevented a single tyranny. It has slaughtered hundreds of innocent people. The greater threat is not our duly-elected officials, but our neighbors.

    I don’t think that we’ll see it any time soon, but at the very least let’s start by closing the gun show loophole (which is, objectively speaking, the stupidest provision ever included in a piece of legislation — letting people decide to avoid enforcement by choosing a different store), put back the assault weapons ban, tax the hell out of ammunition for these things, and license and register everything.

    • csalafia

      Yes, I did… and I knew it would, too. The idiocy of the nutjobs on full display here should serve as a public notice that there are people who are paranoid, ignorant, angry, and armed. A combination that should scare any parent.

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