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David Barton Suggests Government Should “Regulate Homosexuality”

Posted by Christian on Oct 7th, 2010 in News, Politics | 23 comments

Conservative Evangelical - David Barton

David Barton, well known conservative evangelical, “professor” in Beck University, and President of Wallbuilders, took time during his radio show yesterday to discuss whether or not the US Government should “regulate homosexuality”.

On his show, taking a cue from an article written by Ken Hutcherson on the website WorldNetDaily, he attempted to support his argument by saying that the CDC regulates other unhealthy things, such as sugar and fatty foods in schools, so why not have them regulate an “unhealthy lifestyle”?

So if I got to the Centers for Disease Control and I’m concerned about health, I find some interesting stats there and this should tell me something about health.

Homosexual/bi-sexual individuals are seven times to contemplate or commit suicide. Oooh, that doesn’t sound very healthy.

Homosexuals die decades earlier than heterosexuals. That doesn’t sound healthy.

Nearly one-half of practicing homosexuals admit to five hundred or more sex partners and nearly one-third admit to a thousand or more sex partners in a lifetime.

I mean, you go through all this stuff, sounds to me like that’s not very healthy. Why don’t we regulate homosexuality?

He then goes on to argue that being gay is much more dangerous than a diet high in salt and trans-fats, and we regulate those, so why not regulate homosexuality?

I wonder if Mr. Barton also believes that we should regulate all non-monogamous relationships? I mean, straight people have sex, contract sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV/AIDS, contemplate suicide, etc, so why not regulate them?

It’s scary when people advocate for stuff like this, a policy that is eerily reminiscent of how Nazi Germany required the Jewish people to wear armbands identifying them from the rest of German society.

It’s sad that it’s coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian.

Evangelical David Barton Would Like To “Regulate Homosexuality” (alan.com)
Alvin McEwen: Glenn Beck’s ‘historian’ uses bad information to denigrate gay community (huffingtonpost.com)

Eugene Pando

Hey Christian. Question. Would you prefer one of your kids to be gay?
http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

Doesn’t matter to me. I would love them unconditionally, regardless whether they were gay or straight.

You see, I don’t put any conditions or limits on how/when/how much I love my kids.
Eugene Pando

I didn’t ask you if it mattered to you.
I didn’t ask you if you would love them unconditionally.

That’s not the question Christian.

Let me try again.

Would you PREFFER one of your kids to be gay?
http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

And I will tell you again.

It doesn’t matter to me in the least.

Translation: I have no preference.

I want them to be happy, healthy, educated, compassionate, loving adults who are confident and self-assured in who they are.
Eugene Pando

It’s a simple yes or no question.

Would you PREFFER one of your kids to be gay?

Any other answer is a distraction from your fear to answer the question directly.

Let me show you.

Self, would you preffer one of your kids being gay?

No.
http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

It’s as much a simple “yes or no” question as “Have you stopped beating your children?”

While this may be of some big importance to you, it’s not to me. Like I said, I don’t care, I don’t “prefer” either.

Calling that answer “distraction from my fear to answer” is utterly ridiculous.
Eugene Pando

The child beating question is not a question at all. It is a trap. It assumes an answer before the so-called question is even asked.

Aparently it can also be used as a distraction.

This question assumes nothing but an honest yes or no answer:

Would you preffer one of your kids being gay?
Eugene Pando

I meant it assumes a premise. Not answer.
http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

So does your question, or most any question about a preference like that. It assumes that one is better or more desirable than the other.

Sometimes, it just ain’t so.
Eugene Pando

” It assumes that one is better or more desirable than the other.”

No. It doesn’t. If it did it would be asked like this:

“Since being straight is better or more desirable than being gay. Would you prefer one of your kids being gay?” Or the reverse.

The child beating trap assumes that you used to beat your kids or are currently beating your kids.

Would you prefer one of your kids being gay?

Yes or no?
http://homebrewedtheology.com Christian

Nope.

Asking if one prefers something means choosing one over another.

So, I’ll say it again, and for the last time.

I.
Don’t.
Care.
Eugene Pando

Yes you do.

Everybody does.

Anyone who reads this and is honest with themselves will answer with a yes or a no. Even if just to themselves… as I’m sure you already have.
mickey

“he attempted to support his argument by saying that the CDC regulates other unhealthy things, such as sugar and fatty foods in schools, so why not have them regulate an “unhealthy lifestyle?”

Actually he has a good point……IF you accept that its OK for the govt to be regulating things such as sugar and fatty foods.

But I dont think the govt should regulate sugar, fatty foods, or who you sleep with. All personal choices. He’s a nutjob.

Regarding the little debate you two have going, I think you are both correct. Christian I agree with your feelings that you would love you children no matter what- as would I. However, if forced into a yes or no answer (which I think is fair), I would say NO. Not because I would feel any differently about it personally, but because I would feel sorry that they will have to deal with societal pressures and rejections.
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Eugene Pando

Mickey got me to thinking.

I believe I asked the question wrong. I should have asked:

Christian, would YOU prefer to be gay?
joshua

Eugene,

Let’s say you’re in real estate. Wouild you prefer one of clients be black?

Because you seem to believe that every question requires an answer, you must answer that.
Eugene Pando

Prefer black customer over who?
Eugene Pando

I would prefer a pretty, petite, girl with massage skills from South Korea… you know… since you’re asking.
joshua

To be fair, since I asked a question, ill answer yours. I prefer to be what I am. If I am gay, I prefer gay. If I am hetero, I prefer to be hetero. I am hetero, and I prefer to be myself. My friend Mojojules is gay, and she prefers to be herself as well. Thus, Jules prefers to be gay and I prefer to be hetero because that’s what we are.
joshua

you are now in violation of the Fair Housing Act for preferential treatment in housing based on race and gender (massage skills aren’t included in that law).

But aside from that, I think that pretty much shows the difference in our answers. Some would choose to love and serve others regardless of their situation. Others would pick based on the situation. Christian’s answer, and mine, would be “I’d love my child no matter what. I want them to be who they are and who God made them as.” No preferential treatment.
Eugene Pando

So for the record… what you’re saying is you prefer to be straight over being gay. Ok.

You can’t answer a question you asked of me as much as you can speak for your friend… although… Mojojules is an awesome name for someone that is gay. Kinda like the way “Slim” is for a cowboy.
joshua

that’s her twitter handle. Julie is her name.

“I yam what I yam.” I prefer that everyone is who they were created to be. If I was gay, I would prefer that as well.
Eugene Pando

For a pretty, petite, girl with massage skills from South Korea… I’d violate The Fair Housing Act in a second.
Eugene Pando

But you’re not. So you don’t.

So for the record… what you’re saying is you prefer to be straight over being gay. Ok. Ok.
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